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Hey, uh... sorry we've been gone for a minute. We promise we were thinking about all of you the whole time and feeling really guilty about it. And we were drinking local beer.


Anyway, in this episode we're kickin' it old school: Old First Ward-school. We finally made it down to Gene McCarthy's/OFW Brewing and it was everything we could have ever hoped for. We gush more about the First Ward neighborhood (we've done this before, re: previous episodes) and plans for renewal of this historic neighborhood.

(About halfway though it starts raining like crazy outside. Enjoy the ambiance I guess?)


Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade


Clip is "Stalker" from the Grease Creepers new album, Stay Creepy!


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Things mentioned:

Episode 8: The First Ward

Ken Block's Gymkhana Nine: Raw Industrial Playground

WNY Land Conservancy- DL&W Proposal

Shower (Beer) Thoughts 10(By Haley!)


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Publish Date: 12/4/2018


As the snow starts to fall, November begins to pass us by, and the last thursday of the month approaches, it begs the question: WERE THERE EXTRATERRESTRIALS PRESENT AT THE FIRST THANKSGIVING?!


While there’s no record of aliens NOT attending the first feast, there ARE records of UFO sightings in New York State. We skim through YouTube videos of UFOs caught on local newscasts, records of sightings in our neighborhoods on nuforc.org, and a controversial visit the Men in Black took to Niagara Falls.


Does this episode seem too out there for you?


We also discuss the possible, and very real explanations behind sightings all over the U.S. like Top Secret programs operated out of Groom Lake salt flats [Area 51], and the companies behind them. While Lockheed Martin led those operations in the Nevada desert, they also continue research today at a location in Niagara Falls, New York. You may also hear the Imperial March play in your head when we talk about Northrop Grumman and their push to make space weapons and Star Wars a reality.


Sit back and listen as we cover all this and more while sipping on two intergalactic themed beers. How could we properly walk the line of conspiracies without getting spaced out on DIPAs by two of our favorite breweries. First we take on Radio the Mothership by Collective Arts, which is lighter in color than our second beer, but brings more effervescence and packs a boozier punch. Next we drink Space Kitty by Rohrbach Brewing Company which has a bronze hue, and balances the bitterness with some much welcomed malt.


Alright, put on your tinfoil hats, get in your cardboard box rocket ship, and have a listen!


Cheers!


Intro: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade

Outro: "Stardust" by the Rust Belt Brigade

Buy their album "Rhythm & Roll" on Bandcamp!


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Things mentioned:

A History Channel Thanksgiving (South Park)

The Fourth Kind trailer

UFO in Tonawanda (Nov 2018)

UFO in Hamburg (Oct 2018)

UFO on Channel 7 (2016)(2018)

Skunk Works

Mac Sabbath

MIB in Niagara Falls, ON?

"Kalsarikannit"


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Publish Date: 11/16/2018


This episode we throw things back and go back to our roots: this is our Buffalo Brewing Company episode! Surprisingly, we've only just had our first experience drinking with them in the last month! They're a two-year-old brewery that carries the same namesake as a brewery from a century ago, making beers reminiscent of yesteryears.


Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade


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Things mentioned:

Rickyisms

Pennysticks Pretzels

Episode 4

Buffalo Beer: The History of Brewing in the Nickel City

Typhoid Mary

Taft throwing out first pitch

Labatt Brew House


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Publish Date: 11/10/2018


Why are we posting a minisode this week? Well, we're still hungover (physically, emotionally, and spiritually) from Halloween. There isn't really a theme to this one, if we're being honest... but we do talk a lot about cats, adorable rodents, Troy's blog, beer, and a bunch of other Schlitz. 


Music: "The Last Nine Years" by the Rust Belt Brigade


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Publish Date: 11/6/2018


Throughout the nineteen-forties, fifties, and sixties, Buffalo’s theatre district was fortunate enough to host some of the biggest names in entertainment. On any given date, Shea’s Buffalo and the Town Casino across the street were sure to be home to an evening show, leading to late night after-parties that lasted until morning. Today, you can still catch a performance at Shea’s or a concert at Town Ballroom, and its said that while visiting both you can still hear the post-show festivities, or even be approached by the late Michael Shea.


While recording this week, Haley drinks a beer by Buffalo’s own Pressure Drop Brewing. With hints of cinnamon and toasted flavors, ‘Dog Birthday Party’ Graham Cracker Stout is warm and welcome on the palate during this cooler weather. Then, Pressure Drop sent in a special guest before his big release; Ol’ Green Eyes himself, ‘Dank Sinatra’. Although the opaque glass of beer you get from this one is on point with what we think of as a New England Style, the flavors are a true East Coast meets West Coast mashup. With a sweet, citrusy, almost herbaceous front end, Dank Sinatra finishes his set dank, earthy, and just a little bitter.


Music: "No Survivors" by the Grease Creepers

You can download their album "Fresh Cut" here!


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Great ghost stories at the Town Ballroom

WNY's All Time Greatest Nightclub: The Town Casino

Hocus Pocus- Witchcraft (the skeleton band)

Haunted Theatre of the Tonawandas

Some stories from the Holiday Inn

Haunted Tour of Grand Island Holiday Inn

"The Curious Dream" by Mark Twain

Craig Cheape (artist for Dank Sinatra)


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Publish Date: 10/26/2018


Throughout the nineteen-forties, fifties, and sixties, Buffalo’s theatre district was fortunate enough to host some of the biggest names in entertainment. On any given date, Shea’s Buffalo and the Town Casino across the street were sure to be home to an evening show, leading to late night after-parties that lasted until morning. Today, you can still catch a performance at Shea’s or a concert at Town Ballroom, and its said that while visiting both you can still hear the post-show festivities, or even be approached by the late Michael Shea.


While recording this week, Haley drinks a beer by Buffalo’s own Pressure Drop Brewing. With hints of cinnamon and toasted flavors, ‘Dog Birthday Party’ Graham Cracker Stout is warm and welcome on the palate during this cooler weather. Then, Pressure Drop sent in a special guest before his big release; Ol’ Green Eyes himself, ‘Dank Sinatra’. Although the opaque glass of beer you get from this one is on point with what we think of as a New England Style, the flavors are a true East Coast meets West Coast mashup. With a sweet, citrusy, almost herbaceous front end, Dank Sinatra finishes his set dank, earthy, and just a little bitter.


Music: "No Survivors" by the Grease Creepers

You can download their album "Fresh Cut" here!


Become a patron! It could only cost you $1 a month, and it goes towards our beer funds, and also we'd really love you for it! You'll get your name said on the podcast and get exclusive access to unedited episodes and more fun extras!


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Great ghost stories at the Town Ballroom

WNY's All Time Greatest Nightclub: The Town Casino

Hocus Pocus- Witchcraft (the skeleton band)

Haunted Theatre of the Tonawandas

Some stories from the Holiday Inn

Haunted Tour of Grand Island Holiday Inn

"The Curious Dream" by Mark Twain

Craig Cheape (artist for Dank Sinatra)


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Publish Date: 10/26/2018


As the third of four Halloween episodes goes live we think it’s safe to say that we’ve gone from spooky, to creepy, to downright scary with this episode. What makes it cross the line to ‘scary’? The fact that these are the stories of the real monsters that have terrorized our communities: Serial Killers. While Robert Kleason wasn’t a serial killer by definition (his kill count isn’t sufficient enough), he was once rumored to be the inspiration for the Texas Chainsaw Massacre films. Then we discuss the man who spent years behind bars for a crime he didn’t commit, while the real ‘Bike Path Rapist’ was free to kill again.


The historical content may be dark, but we kept the drinks light and sweet. This week is a cider episode, and we tried a few varieties! Throughout the show we sip Leonard Oakes “Steampunk Cider” and review two ciders by Blackbird Cider Works that we tried before recording. Don’t think there’s something for your specific tastes in the cider world? Think again!


Music: "Smile" by the Grease Creepers

You can download their album "Fresh Cut" here!


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Taxidermist murders Mormon missionaries

Relaxing Car Ride (jump scare)

Altemio Sanchez Murderpedia

Job for a Cowboy - Knee Deep ft. Spongebob

SBT 8: Which Cider You On?

When you love the Beatles but also love Death Metal


Beers Ciders Drank:

Blackbird Cider Works Dry Oak Barrel Aged Cider

Blackbird Cider Works Red Barn Farm Style

Leonard Oakes Estate Winery’s - Steampunk Cider


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Publish Date: 10/19/2018


This week we discuss the true horror behind a popular urban legend in Angola NY, the curse of an Egyptian king cast in Niagara Falls, and we list off a number of “coincidences” that have happened along the Great Gorge Route near Devil’s Hole. Ready or not, we drink another pumpkin beer...well it’s more of a coffee beer by Fifth Frame Brewing Co. with a seasonal twist. Then we try our first Rye IPA, by Barrier Brewing. So do you want to find out where to go and possibly experience a good spook? Want to hear the funny crap other people say about the beers we drink? Then quit reading and get listening!


Are you ready?


Music: "Are You Ready" by the Grease Creepers

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"The Barnett Collection"

"King Ramses Curse" (Courage the Cowardly Dog)

"Devil's Hole Cave"--includes pictures!

"Niagara Gorge Railroad"--also includes pics!

"The Secret Plot to Kill McKinley" by John Koerner

"Angola Horror"

"The Ghost Train Song" Hey Arnold

Shower Beer Thoughts #6 (will be updated soon)


Beers drank:

Pumpkin Spice Latte Brown Ale by Fifth Frame Brewing Co.

Evil Giant Rye IPA by Barrier Brewing Company


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Publish Date: 10/14/2018


Have you ever wondered why things make you creeped out? To kick off the show, Haley gives a run down on exactly why we find things creepy, and why she likes being spooked, while Troy reaffirms that when it comes to scary stuff, he’s a little baby b***h.


That being said, welcome to the first of four Halloween episodes! With New York having the history that it does, and with all the available seasonal beers, it was obvious to us that all that spookiness couldn’t be fit into a single show! This week, learn about NYS as the birthplace of Spiritualism, and two sisters that became famous for pranking their mother, and in turn, started an entire religion. And since it’s week one, you know some pumpkin beers were consumed! But whether you love em or hate em, we let you know where to send your thank you cards or your hate mail!


As always, drink responsibly, drink local, oh and stay creepy!


Music: "Grease Creepers Creep" by the Grease Creepers


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"Evolutionary psychology explains why haunted houses creep us out"

How We Decide Who's Creepy (Psychology Today)

"What's So Scary About Momo?"

"Tin Toy" Pixar Short (1988)

The Fox Sisters: Spiritualism's Unlikely Founders (HistoryNet)

"Bones in 'Old Spook House'"

"A Skeleton's Tale: The Origins of Modern Spiritualism"

Lily Dale, NY

Paranormal Walks, LLC


Beers drank: Cold-Pressed Coffee Pumking by STBC, Vanilla Cappuccino Pumpkin Ale by Resurgence


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Publish Date: 10/5/2018


This week we're revisiting Rochester! Haley's already feeling a little spooky so she'll be talking exclusively about Mount Hope cemetery and its most famous/interesting residents (no offense to the rest of the people buried there...) Also we discuss a newer brewery in the area, as well as another Rochester brewery that makes a beer based off of a well-known mass-produced beer.


Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade


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Things mentioned:

Fifth Frame Brewing (you can see the Yarp/Nerp!)

River City Project (this sounds a lot like a conspiracy theory but it's not)

"Killer Klowns" by The Dickies 

The Hot-dog, the American dream and the Greek connection 

John Oliver on Bud Light Lime 


Beer drank: Swift Light Lime by Swiftwater Brewing 


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Publish Date: 9/29/2018


Hey-ey-ey-ey we just got our new equipment in the mail, and drank a ton of new beers this weekend at the Ballpark Brewbash, so we thought it would be the perfect opportunity for a quick little minisode!


Remember: live every day like it's Buffalo Beer Week.


Beers discussed:

-Random Company by CB Craft Brewers

-Bisonberry Kolsch by Flying Bison

-Cherry Kolsch by Steelbound Brewery & Distillery

-Pills Mafia by Thin Man Brewery

-Come Quat with Me by Woodcock Brewery

-J-Pop by Sato Brewpub

-Raspberry Soiree by Ithaca Beer

-Paczki Milk Stout by Rusty Nickel Brewing

-Chai Tea Infused Pumking by Southern Tier Brewing Company


Music: "The Last Nine Years" by the Rust Belt Brigade


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Publish Date: 9/24/2018


Hey there! This is a special pre-recorded episode that we recorded with the guys from What the Hops at Big Ditch during the Packet re-release! Regrettably, there isn't a ton of history in this episode, and that's mainly because we were going with What the Hops' style of podcasting: just shooting the shit. We hope you enjoy, and we'll be back next week with your regularly-scheduled history podcast (brewed for your enjoyment.) Happy Buffalo Beer Week! #COLLABORATION


Check out our friends from What the Hops


Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade


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Publish Date: 9/21/2018


Here it is: our Buffalo History Museum episode! To celebrate their upcoming Party on the Portico, we've decided to make this episode all about them (or at least mostly about them...) We love history! So obviously we love the history museum. Hear all about the origins of the museum as well as what you can see in-person there as well as online!


Things mentioned:

Buffalo History Museum

Green Schwinn

Pierce Arrow Building conversion?

Buffalo History Museum exhibits

BHM Online Research library

Buffalo Drinking Map

Erie County Prisoner Identification (1896-1914)

KKK membership directory (1924)

Shower Beer Thoughts #7


Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade

They'll be playing their Monthly Ramble show at Mr. Goodbar on 9/19!


Beer drank: 1812 Butler's Bitter by Niagara College's Teaching Brewery


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Publish Date: 9/15/2018


This week we're celebrating Buffalo's music scene to get in the spirit of Music is Art, the nonprofit started by a member of one famous Buffalo-based band. When you think of music and entertainment in Buffalo, you can't not think about the Theatre District, or its centerpiece: Shea's Performing Arts Center. Shea was a super busy guy who seriously LOVED entertainment. If you're not driving, take a sip for every theatre of his that Haley mentions in this episode.


TL;DL: Everything burns down *fire emoji*. Also we don't know how to pronounce vaudeville.


Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade

If you're listening on the day of the release, RBB plays Music is Art TOMORROW (Saturday, 9/8) on the main stage at 3!


Beer drank: Full-Stack IIPA by SingleCut Beersmiths


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Things Mentioned:

Music Is Art

"The Wonder of it All" by Arlan Peters

In The Buff 716

Mac Sabbath

Shower Beer Thoughts #6

Misuta Chows

Three Little Pigs- Green Jello

Cannibal Corpse on Ace Ventura

Wyatt Coin

DredNeks

Grease Creepers


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Publish Date: 9/7/2018


It's our thirtieth episode! You know what they say: 30 is the new 20! So for this, our thirtieth episode, we've decided to make our own little "clip-isode" where we go over our last 29 episodes (and the minisodes) and bring up some stuff that's come up since the episode has come out. Haley does do a classic deep-dive into something historic (should we tell you what it is?) Alright fine, it's the Buffalo Central Terminal! We just won't tell you where it comes in. HA!


Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade


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Beer drank: Gin Barrel-Aged Beautiful River by Big Ditch Brewing Company


Things mentioned:

Bobby, can I go out and grill tonight?

Amazing Larry- CBW Instagram post

"14 years down the drain" Seinfeld

ALL OF OUR EPISODES. Go check out our back catalog if you haven't yet! (See how much we've grown :))




Publish Date: 9/1/2018


This episode's for anyone going back to school this week coming up: this is our University at Buffalo episode! (Probably one of many, because there's a ton of history behind the school.) Consider this our most general UB episode, because Haley goes over the founding of the school and how the two main campuses got their start. Troy does a deep-dive on Capen Hall and Haley talks about her UB experience back in good ol' 2014, for which we have a moment of silence for Yik Yak.


To hear the unedited version of this episode, as well as getting to hear the new patron-only special secret that we talk about on this show, become a patron! 


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Music: "Low Bridge" by The Rust Belt Brigade


Things mentioned:

"Best Iced Coffee in Buffalo" Step Out Buffalo

"Tracing the path of UB's North Campus" UB Reporter, Kevin Fryling

UB Library's University Archives

"A Rat in a Maze: Student Attitudes Towards the Design of UB’s Amherst Campus, 1968-1985." Jack Ding

Buffalo History Museum's Party on the Portico


Beers drank:

"Beer" by Swiftwater Brewing (Rochester, NY)

"Lunch Money" by Collective Arts Brewing (Hamilton, ON)


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Publish Date: 8/24/2018


This episode is a little bit sloppier than our usual product--we blame recording at 10 pm and pre-gaming at New York Beer Project. Anyway, this is our official Frederick Law Olmsted episode! Olmsted played a huge role in making Buffalo a one-of-a-kind city; what he would call "the Best Planned City in the World." Haley discusses the three parks he designed for Buffalo and the vision he had for each of them--and the effect that the Buffalo expressway system has had on each of them. (You'll find out here that we have about as much passion about buildings as we do about parks.)


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Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade


Things mentioned:

We started a Facebook group!

"The Best Planned City in the World" book (it says now there's only 5 left!)

Photos of the Parade House


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Publish Date: 8/17/2018


You didn't think we forgot about you, did you? We're a day late on our episode drop but we're sure it's worth it!


This week, Lewiston, NY is the focal point of the show! Along with its rich history and beautiful views, Lewiston is now home to a great place to drink freshly brewed beers! We got our hands on a Bourbon Barrel-Aged Quadrupel (thanks to our Patron Billy Jean) by Brickyard Brewing Company!


Expect our usual Drinking Points chatter: old buildings, influential individuals, and great beer. We give a little more information on what's behind the barrel aging process and we share every detail on our tasting sheet for this one. Cheers!


Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade


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Things mentioned:

The SILO

Tasting Sheet by Craftbeer.com

Troy's blogs (read them)


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Publish Date: 8/11/2018


Here's a fun drinking game: take a drink every time the word "right" or "Wright" is said in this episode. (Actually, don't. That's not drinking responsibly.)


Well, if you know us, I'm sure you know by now this is our Frank Lloyd Wright episode! (Maybe the first of several, who knows.) In this episode we discuss one of Wright's most well-known designs, made for the man he called his best friend: Darwin D. Martin. In addition we talk about a few other Wright works in Buffalo, and we find out that Haley probably cares more about old buildings than people.


And an added bonus: we start a new Untappd segment, which has yet to be named, starring the beer of the episode; Frank by Community Beer Works!


Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade; "Swing Time" by Music by Pedro (Youtube)

*The Rust Belt Brigade are playing at 810 Meadworks on 8/4 at 9PM!


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Things Mentioned:

The Winslow House

The Larkin Administrative Building

A timeline of the Darwin Martin House

Gray cliff



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Publish Date: 8/3/2018


In this episode, Troy takes the reins while Haley takes an accidental vacation day (don't worry, she's still here.) While Haley was working, Troy took a trip to Buffalo's Pierce Arrow Museum, where he learned a bunch about old cars and BIKES! And this museum just so happens to be down the street from Buffalo's first brewery since Iroquois closed in the 70s, Flying Bison Brewing Company! Thanks for listening!


Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade


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Things mentioned:

Wyatt Coin (a WNY cowpunk band!)

Pierce Arrow Museum

Tom Segura on Hot Ones


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Publish Date: 7/27/2018


In this minisode, we're celebrating 7/16! Does it count as a minisode if it's still 40 minutes long? We like to think so. But unlike our usual beer-drinking selves, we're celebrating by drinking local kombucha by Barrel and Brine (go ahead, call us hipsters.) Haley discusses the history of phone numbers and area codes, and Troy goes on a series of Buffalo-based tangents that he's been waiting forever to unleash. Thanks for listening!


Music: "The Last Nine Years" by the Rust Belt Brigade


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Publish Date: 7/20/2018


In this episode, we go over our weekend road trip through Western New York and discuss the colorful history of a few towns that we passed through: one that is known as the "birthplace of WNY", another that was the birthplace of the author of the Pledge of Allegiance, and a town that has not one, but two, correctional facilities! Also, we bring back one of OUR favorite segments (we hope it's yours too): WHAT COULD'VE IT BEEN NAMED?


The purpose of this road trip was to find our "hoppy" place at Farm Sanctuary in Watkins Glen, NY, which was obviously amazing; but being in Watkins Glen, of course, means that we had to check out the local beer scene. Watkins Glen is the home of Rooster Fish Brewing, New York's first Farm Brewery, so we drank a flight (as one does) and also managed to find some of their beer to drink on the show. Although the episode states that Rooster Fish was NYS’s first Farm Brewery; another beer we drank today by Good Nature Brewing from Hamilton, NY says THEY’re the first Farm Brewery in the state. Which one of you is it?!


The third beer we drank was by Rogue Ales. Why are we drinking a beer from out of state on the show? Because not only is Rogue from one of the top three hop producing states in the US. But they’re also 100% in on #drinklocal! They’ve got their own farms where they grow a ton of ingredients for their beer; and we think that’s pretty cool!


So I guess all we can say now is that we hope you enjoy this random episode, and we hope you find YOUR hoppy place!


Beers drank (not counting our flight):

Blight Buster- Good Nature Brewing

6 Hop IPA- Rogue Ales

Hop Warrior Imperial IPA- RoosterFish Brewing


Music: "Low Bridge" by Rust Belt Brigade


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Publish Date: 7/13/2018


Ah, Canada and the U.S.A. 

They gained their independence the same week in July (almost 100 years apart) and they’ve been friends since the very beginning right? WRONG! 

*thunder crashes*

The year is 1812 and Congress declares war on Canada! Not really, they declared war on Great Britain who had control of Canada. Forts were built, destroyed, and rebuilt. The same went for entire cities! And it’s been so damn hot here that we thought, “Hey, let’s talk about the burning of Buffalo.” 

Beer wise, we chat a bit about the oldest breweries of both the U.S. and Canada and we drink beers from four different breweries that we’re PRETTY SURE we haven’t mentioned on the show before! (Two American, two Canadian.)

So grab a beer, sit down, and have a listen eh! 🇺🇸 🇨🇦 🇬🇧 


Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade


Beers drank:

    Brew York- Ithaca BeerLug-Tread- Beau's BeerDernière Volontè Brettanomyces- Microbrasserie Dieu du cielOrbital Tilt- Captain Lawrence Brewing

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Publish Date: 7/6/2018


We say it every week: we’re a history podcast, brewed for your enjoyment. This week, we talk local brews of a different sort: coffee! A building occupied by one of our favorite coffee spots has a lot of history behind it. Join us as we talk about how we love our local coffee scene as much as our local beer scene. In the spirit of our topic, we’re drinking a couple of different coffee-infused beers. In addition, we give you a little TMI about what coffee does to the body...we hope you're not too shy. [Insert smiling poop emoji.]


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"Happy Happy Game Show" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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Things mentioned:

"500 Block of Main"

Overwinter Coffee!

"10 Steps from Seed to Cup"

A Guide to Roasting Types

The History of Coffee

"The Answer is Always Yes"

"Effect of coffee on distal colon function."


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Publish Date: 6/29/2018


In this episode we delve into a Buffalo historical figure who Haley has been super excited to talk about: Red Jacket! As expected, any talk involving post-European Native American history can get a little serious, but we promise it's not too much of a bummer! We even get a little spooky and discuss a possible Buffalo curse? And for the beer... well, that would be another curse of the Buffalo/Western New York area: we're drinking Genny Screamers. If you don't know what those are, you're gonna find out today!


And an extra tidbit: we talk about Resurgence's new can releases, specifically Peter B. Porter and Conehead IPA, which we're super pumped about!


(Sorry there's a lot of car/plane noises in the background. It was hot as a really hot thing so we had the windows open for the first half of the episode...then there's birds, which is a little less annoying)


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Things mentioned:

Hear Troy do a burp at 8:59 because I was talking at the same time and couldn't edit it out!

Religion for the White Man and the Red (1805)

"Red Jacket's Revenge" (2016)

Interview with a Serial Killer on Netflix

Article about Buffalo Bill Cody (2016)

Two Fold -- where to find our friends' new publication!


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Publish Date: 6/22/2018


This week, we stumbled upon an episode topic by accident (as we tend to do) and revisited Buffalo's Old First Ward at the Barrel Factory, home of one of Buffalo's newest breweries, Pressure Drop Brewing! This place is really awesome, and hits all of our "good place" vibes. They don't make barrels here anymore (yet?) but they do push out some serious beer, as well as spirits and kombucha. In addition, we touch on the growing trend of neighborhoods, such as the Old First Ward, going "micro-local," which we're obviously here for 100%.


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Things mentioned:

Episode 8: The First Ward

Hear our cat making alien noises at 6:15

Shower Beer Thoughts #2: The Answer Is Always Yes

Darcy-Weisbach equation

Why pressure drop matters (science)

Why Pressure Drop matters (brewing company)

Collective Arts Liquid Art Festival

Vinylly Friday: The Black Keys - Brothers



Publish Date: 6/15/2018


We're back everybody! (Congratulations to Troy for coming up with the episode name this week!) This episode has been in the works since the beginning of the project, and here we are finally doing it! Take a listen as we cover the history of Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory and one of their many notable creations; the first crash test dummy. Then we drink Trial By Wombat - a hazy IPA by Thin Man Brewery. How does the history and the beer crossover? Have a listen to find out!


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Things mentioned:

Joey's World Tour

Brews & Interviews

Interactive New York Map

John Paul Stapp: Fastest Man on Earth

F*** Air Bags Cartoon

Andre the Giant holding a beer can

Unknown Stories of WNY: Thin Man


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Publish Date: 6/8/2018


So yeah, I know we said we weren't going to have a new episode this week. But first of all, this is a minisode--don't get it twisted. Second, we're workaholics. You should've expected this. 


In this minisode, we casually discuss the lore behind two of Buffalo's biggest food legacies: the chicken wing, and the beef on weck.


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Things mentioned in this minisode:

Beef on Weck

Kümmel (liqueur)

Wilhelm scream


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Publish Date: 6/2/2018


This week we recorded on location at Big Ditch Brewing Company! We feature two of their beers, Beautiful River Farmhouse Saison and Electric District Pilsner. 


Check out this episode to hear our favorite (and most likely completely untrue) story about the origin of the naming of our city: Buffalo. Also, hear a bit about how the power of the Niagara River and Niagara Falls was harnessed and where they decided to send the first dose of electricity once they flipped the switch!


(Also, wait around until about 40 minutes in, where you can hear a bit of our interview with the president of Big Ditch, Matt Kahn!)


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Things mentioned in this episode:

What are Queen Cities?

The New Wonder of the World by A.E. Richmond

"You said number 11"

Nancy Drew: The Deadly Device

Buffalo buffalo buffalo...

Styrian Golding Hops


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Publish Date: 5/25/2018


Welcome to our first (of many) collaboration episodes with our friends, Tim and Eddie from the podcast Vinylly Friday! This week, we're drinking a beer very close to our friends' hearts, the Walter's Jelly Donut by New York Beer Project! (They provided the beer and recording space, and we provided actual jelly donuts.) In addition, we discuss important topics, such as the mullet of beers and whether a dumpling is a hat or not. We hope this episode is a (donut) hole in one!


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Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade


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Publish Date: 5/18/2018


This week, we went "6 Days (hours) to Air" style and figured out our topic the night before from an Instagram post by Community Beer Works. So obviously we went to CBW, did some "research", and the rest was history. (History podcast, pun intended.)


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Publish Date: 5/11/2018


In this episode, we're talking about one of our favorite points of Buffalo history: the Pan American Exposition. The Pan-Am had everything: state-of-the-art architecture, food and beer, a midway, music, crime and scandal... all that good stuff. (For this reason, expect future Pan-Am episodes, because we can only fit so much into one episode.) In addition, we discuss a newer style of beer being produced by two Pearl St. breweries in Buffalo! Well then, let us off at Buffalo!


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Publish Date: 5/4/2018


How do trains drink? They chug. Hop on the West Shore train with us this week as we talk about West Shore Brewing, a relatively new brewery in Clarence, NY! This brewery was suggested to us by a survey participant, and it did NOT disappoint! Our research this week took us into the Rare Books Room of the Central Library (how fancy!) Since we weren't able to drink West Shore Beers during our recording, we chose something else that seemed to fit the bill. All aboard!


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Publish Date: 4/27/2018


Well...we're not sure how to say this lightly, but we're releasing this episode on a day where a lot of people celebrate a certain plant. (I guess that's a good way to put it lightly.) This plant shares a lot of similarities with another plant, which, if you enjoy drinking beer like we do, you know we're talking about hops! One of the major similarities is the prohibition of the substances that these plants are found in, and in this episode, we'll be talking in detail about the prohibition of alcohol! And since we're a Buffalo podcast, we'll of course talk a bit about Buffalo's role during the prohibition! So join us, and remember to drink responsibly, which means you've gotta drink local!


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Publish Date: 4/20/2018


After 11 episodes, we decided to throw in a revisit and show some more love for Big Ditch Brewing Company. This week we cover a ton a Erie Canal history and a bunch of different Big Ditch brews! What can you expect from this weeks episode? Learn about the sources of many Big Ditch beer names, hear some Erie Canal fun facts that we left out of Episode 1, and find out which naysayer Dewitt Clinton called out on his s#!t talking! As an added bonus, enjoy learning some Canalese from Haley. Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade


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Publish Date: 4/13/2018


Take me out to the brewery, take me out with the crowd, buy me some pretzels and a six pack, I don't care if I never get back... This week, we're celebrating the opening week of baseball by talking about a brewery located in the (supposed) birthplace of baseball--well, at the least--the home of the Baseball Hall of Fame: Cooperstown, NY! Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade We have a website: http://drinkingpoints.com Follow us! Instagram: http://instagram.com/drinkingpoints Twitter: http://twitter.com/drinkingpoints Facebook: http://facebook.com/drinkingpoints If you shop on amazon, use our amazon affiliate link: www.amazon.com/?&_encoding=UTF8&…789&creative=9325

Publish Date: 4/6/2018


Cześć! Today we're celebrating Dyngus Day! What is Dyngus Day, you ask? Well, you've gotta listen to find out! In addition, tune in to hear Haley butcher the Polish language and Troy talk about eating weird pickled things. Oh yeah, and we talk about Dyngus Day-related beer and liquor, too. Na zdrowie! Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade We have a website: http://drinkingpoints.com Follow us on Instagram and Twitter: @drinkingpoints Like our Facebook page! http://facebook.com/drinkingpoints And last but not least, please take our survey! We want to know what you want out of us and the podcast: https://goo.gl/forms/Xfg3PtAiTr90C5M93

Publish Date: 3/30/2018


Everybody get your “fun” meters out because the fun level in this episode is off the charts, so much that this episode was almost labeled “The Fun Episode”. So why are we talking about the many amusement parks and attractions that have meant family fun for generations of Western New Yorkers? Take a listen to find out! Oh, you’re curious about what beer we’re featuring this week? We’re not coming right out and saying it, but Haley latched onto the name of the brew and it snowballed into this entire episode! Cheers! Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade We have a website: http://drinkingpoints.com Follow us on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter @drinkingpoints If you shop on amazon, use our amazon affiliate link: https://www.amazon.com/?&_encoding=UTF8&tag=drinkingpoint-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=f730c29cf63fd7695d7a441c2c1c9fd8&camp=1789&creative=9325

Publish Date: 3/23/2018


Sorry to disappoint--this episode is about the First Ward, NOT Old First Ward Brewing. (We'll get there!) Regardless, this is our St. Patrick's Day episode! So naturally, we're talking about the Irish impact on Buffalo, and the neighborhood where they set their roots. Also we're drinking Irish-style beers, so there's that. (And no, not green beer.) Are you Irish? Who cares! Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's day. Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade We have a website: http://drinkingpoints.com Follow us on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter @drinkingpoints If you shop on amazon, use our amazon affiliate link: https://www.amazon.com/?&_encoding=UTF8&tag=drinkingpoint-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=f730c29cf63fd7695d7a441c2c1c9fd8&camp=1789&creative=9325 Thanks for listening!

Publish Date: 3/16/2018


Listen up you hosers. This week we're going over the border to talk about our friends to the north, Canada, and more specifically, Hamilton, Ontario. So come inside, put on some dry socks (ya gotta hate those soakers, am I right?) and crack open that two-four and listen to us talk about some history and Collective Arts Brewing. Music: "Low Bridge" by Rust Belt Brigade We have a website: http://drinkingpoints.com Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook: @drinkingpoints If your shopping on Amazon, use our affiliate link: https://www.amazon.com/?&_encoding=UTF8&tag=drinkingpoint-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=f730c29cf63fd7695d7a441c2c1c9fd8&camp=1789&creative=9325

Publish Date: 3/9/2018


Hey, is this episode 6? Why yes, I believe it is! In this episode, we talk about some exciting news in Buffalo; as well as discuss the rise, fall and Resurgence of Buffalo beer. Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade We have a website: http://drinkingpoints.com Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook @drinkingpoints And if you need (or want) to buy something on Amazon use the Amazon link on our website to give us help with beer money!

Publish Date: 3/2/2018


In this episode, we're drinking 12 Gate's New England IPA, Automail, and we get our questions answered straight from the source. Also, we get reeeal nerdy. Get ready! Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and like our Facebook page @drinkingpoints! We have a website: http://drinkingpoints.com And if you need to buy something on Amazon(or maybe you just want to, that's cool too)use the Amazon link on our website to give us help with beer money!

Publish Date: 2/23/2018


This is Episode 4! Today we're drinking Southern Tier beers, and we welcome our first guest, our novice home brewing friend(and Haley's uncle) Ryan! Why the hell not? Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade We have a website: http://drinkingpoints.com Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook @drinkingpoints! And let us know what you think! Leave us a review and rating on your preferred podcast app!

Publish Date: 2/16/2018


Welcome to Episode 3! We're just gonna warn you; we're drinking a dark beer today, so the history gets a little dark--you might need a drink for this one. Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade

Publish Date: 2/9/2018


In this episode, we take a trip down the 90 to our friend to the east: Rochester. We went for the beers--but ended up starting with liquor-- and then drinking beers. We call it: the flight of Railroad St. Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade

Publish Date: 2/2/2018


Welcome to episode one of Drinking Points: A history podcast brewed for your enjoyment! This episode features Big Ditch Brewing Co. and their Low Bridge blonde ale; and if we're discussing Big Ditch in any episode, you know we're dropping some serious Erie Canal knowledge! Music: "Low Bridge" by the Rust Belt Brigade

Publish Date: 1/26/2018