Better on Draft 182 – Brewery 4 Two 4

It's that time!  We made it to Holland, MI to check out Brewery 4 Two 4!  Ed, Ken, and Matt interview Dave, owner and head brewer about his career into the brewing industry, what made them choose Holland, and how "4 Two 4" came to be.  We talk about the industry as we try nearly 20 of his beers during the show!

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Publish Date: 6/17/2019




Recent Episodes

Pulled from episode 186, this is our summer time draft special where we draft beers based on occasions, styles, and wants/needs.

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Publish Date: 7/13/2019


This week we discuss the rise and fall of Cellarmen's, beer trends we saw (and didn't see), and Matt sets up the summer time draft for beers to drink for every occasion.  We toast some delicious Michigan beers and we talk about the rise of non-alcohols, sober drinking trends, and the powerhouse that is White Claw.  

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Publish Date: 7/13/2019


On this July 4th edition of Better on Draft, writer Ed joins Matt, Rob, and Ken as they go over the weeks news, we get hard numbers for how much beer is not selling, and Ken challenges the other three to an adult spelling bee.   Learn more by listening to the show! Subscribe to our podcast at http://playpodca.st/betterondraft   Don’t forget to listen to us live every Friday at 7pm EST on Facebook Live. We are also on your Spotify too! https://open.spotify.com/show/0rofqU5VHPmEjcGLwJbocm   If you have a minute, please feel free to rate us on iTunes, we would truly appreciate it! https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/better-on-draft-a-craft-beer-podcast/id1091124740?mt=2   www.twitter.com/betterondraft www.facebook.com/betterondraft www.untappd.com/bodpodcast www.youtube.com/c/betterondraft www.instagram.com/betterondraft SPOTIFY- https://open.spotify.com/show/0rofqU5VHPmEjcGLwJbocm

Publish Date: 7/7/2019


Rob, Ken, and Matt talk about the three tier system, and rise and fall of some breweries in the state, how the local brewpub is turning into the local watering hole removing the local dive bar, and Matt has his plan to fix the three tier system! Packed and loaded with banter and discussion on the state of the industry and ideas to improve it and more, right here in Episode 184

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Publish Date: 6/29/2019


Robb and Jason come down to Royal Oak to discuss the opening of their new brewery Tenacity Craft in Detroit, MI. They talk about opening up the brewery in Flint, dealing with the water crisis, and we try some distilled beer. Watch our reactions as we try the base and what they turned it into, and follow on the journey as we talk a little bit about the future of their craft beer and how their expanding into more than just beer.

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Publish Date: 6/22/2019


Nick and Rob needed a break so we brought Ed in here to chat with Brian and Eric from Phillips Orchards. Eric is a former brewer at Ozones and Brian's family has owned the orchards for over 160 years! We discuss the want to get into the hard cider game, the competition, and how they have been doing since they opened in March. Eric talks about bringing his brand of beer making into cider making and they discuss the future of what you can (and can't do) with a winemakers license.

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Publish Date: 6/8/2019


Ken was in Dallas Texas for a week so he sits down with Victor from Dallas Beer Talk (SEE VIDEO HERE) and don't forget to subscribe to them over at SoundCloud.

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Publish Date: 6/6/2019


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